• @quick_snail@feddit.nl
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    Sources: Gloria Steinem, New York Times (1967); Redstockings press release and research report (1975); The Village Voice (May 21, 1979); Frances Stonor Saunders, The Cultural Cold War (1999); Daniel Brandt, NameBase/Portland

    It’s kinda fucked that they link to Wikipedia all throughout this article, but the real primary source material has zero links.

    Kinda kills your credibility.

    Would it be too much to upload your primary source material to archive.org and link to it?

  • @jambudz@lemmy.zip
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    8122 hours ago

    Gloria Steinem was paid $20k to speak/q&a at my school by an alumni committee and it was an hour of students just tearing her to shreds about what a money grubbing POS she was. It was great.

  • @thlibos@thelemmy.club
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    3623 hours ago

    Feminists of the 70s did not give two fucks about intersectionality or helping the oppressed…they only cared about white women getting the same slice of the pie as white men.

    • @Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4720 hours ago

      White feminists*

      Black feminists wanted to talk about class and racism, it’s just the media didn’t give them a microphone to talk about it…

      • @TronBronson@lemmy.world
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        1216 hours ago

        Ya it’s an effect of the passage of time, that’s why we label the 3 waves of feminism in America. the movement got broader and more inclusive as the years went on. Which upset some of the older feminists like JK Rowling who refused the memo of equality for all.

    • @harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2021 hours ago

      Continuing the tradition. The suffragette movement was tied to the civil rights movement. Until the white patriarchy promised white women the right to vote if they dumped the civil rights movement. Then the white women went “fyigm” and helped keep Jim Crow alive.

      • @TronBronson@lemmy.world
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        616 hours ago

        It’s amazing how a large movement can achieve half its goals and then pull up the ladder on the other half isn’t it?

  • @CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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    901 day ago

    When Ramparts broke the story in 1967, Steinem confirmed her role to The New York Times without apology, describing the CIA as “liberal, nonviolent and honorable” and stating she would do it again.

  • ageedizzle
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    191 day ago

    Abstract expressionism (ie modern art) was actually pushed by the CIA as well (source), though the motivation in this case is murkier

    • @Archer@lemmy.world
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      2023 hours ago

      Not really? Soviets were pushing hyper-realism so the US government funded the opposite

      • lad
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        16 hours ago

        I always thought Suprematism was what the Soviets were pushing, now I read the wiki article and it seems it was not, and Socialist realism was, and I guess it was the hyper-realism you talk about?

      • ageedizzle
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        1323 hours ago

        I didn’t know that. Either way it seems a bit odd that the CIA would care so deeply about matters of artistic taste

          • @mcv@lemmy.zip
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            514 hours ago

            A foolish strategy. It means you allow your opponent to limit you. People who like hyper realism would have no option but Soviet art.

            • ageedizzle
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              311 hours ago

              It’s also a stupid strategy because modern art is pretty dumb (I know I might get hate for this but lets be real guys)

          • ageedizzle
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            516 hours ago

            Yes but the extent to which they’d go to oppose the Soviets even on trivial matters seems silly

            • @TronBronson@lemmy.world
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              Unless you lived in that era it’s really hard to imagine how the reds lived in the imagination of every American. if you’re old enough to remember the war culture during the start of Iraq/Afghanistan. it was like that on steroids. 50 years of Cold War means a couple generations were completely consumed by it. The cold war nostalgia tour didn’t end until the “terrorists are every where” tour began.

              • ageedizzle
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                211 hours ago

                I’m not old enough to remember the first one and I’m not American so I was never really caught up in the second one, so it is genuinely hard for me to understand why the CIA cared so deeply about Soviet artistic preferences that they conducted psyops to oppose them. I’m not doubting that it happened, it just seems bizarre to me